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ASSASSINATION WSA
« Topic Start: April 16, 2017, 07:18:49 AM »
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Now then, player came up with something so bizzare I needed to clairify.

If I have an empty assassination dagger, can I stir my wine with it and pull out any poison in it?

Also, since alcohol is technically a poison, will it remove the alcohol, and thus get a target drunk when you stab them?
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #1: April 16, 2017, 10:16:36 AM »
Stirring poisoned wine =/= applying poison; the 'seems to eagerly drink in poison' line has no game effect other than highlighting the following line that removes the risk of poisoning yourself when applying poison. Also unless said poison was an ingested type, it's unlikely to be in the wine. Barring an incompetent poisoner. So it'd have to be either contact/ingested or injury/ingested to be of use anyway.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #2: April 16, 2017, 03:38:16 PM »
Eh, I'd let it work at my table. It's the kind of cleverness that I like to encourage.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #3: April 16, 2017, 04:42:14 PM »
I didn't say it'd never be acceptable, merely that the rules don't support it. I even gave supporting info, though I forgot that I don't know of a dual vector poison.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #4: April 16, 2017, 11:55:03 PM »
Do note, itís the weaponís enhancement that raises the DC. The ammunitionís enhancement bonus stacks with the projectile weaponís enhancement bonus, so you could, in theory, raise the DC of your poison by +10.

Is this true?  I figure since they're both enhancement bonuses, they'd overlap rather than stack.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #5: April 17, 2017, 12:32:06 AM »
Do note, itís the weaponís enhancement that raises the DC. The ammunitionís enhancement bonus stacks with the projectile weaponís enhancement bonus, so you could, in theory, raise the DC of your poison by +10.

Is this true?  I figure since they're both enhancement bonuses, they'd overlap rather than stack.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #6: April 17, 2017, 01:04:49 AM »
A weapon that fires projectiles/ammo wouldn't be viable for the Assassination WSA anyways. It says it's only for "ammo/melee/thrown".

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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #7: April 17, 2017, 02:07:41 AM »
A weapon that fires projectiles/ammo wouldn't be viable for the Assassination WSA anyways. It says it's only for "ammo/melee/thrown".

Right.  Like the Editor's Note says, you'd put it on your arrows.
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Re: ASSASSINATION WSA
« Reply #8: April 21, 2017, 12:37:56 AM »
The fluff fits (but if you're stabbed, getting tipsy is the worst of your problems). RAW ... it's pretty clearly not supposed to do that. But it's not broken. Casters clear things of poison all the time.

Do note, itís the weaponís enhancement that raises the DC. The ammunitionís enhancement bonus stacks with the projectile weaponís enhancement bonus, so you could, in theory, raise the DC of your poison by +10.

Is this true?  I figure since they're both enhancement bonuses, they'd overlap rather than stack.
They stacked in 3.0. In 3.5, they don't.
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