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Two-handed unarmed strike
« Topic Start: November 29, 2012, 06:44:07 PM »
Is there a feat/ability anywhere that explicitly makes an unarmed attack count as a two-handed weapon?  The best I could come up with is Hammerfist from Races of Faerun which just adds 1.5xstr mod to unarmed attacks.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #1: November 29, 2012, 08:39:45 PM »
What's the one where you give up all of your attacks but one, and it does double damage? Does that one say that?
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #2: November 29, 2012, 08:49:10 PM »
That would be Decisive Strike and it doesn't either. :(

Maybe I'm just hoping for too much and it doesn't exist.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #3: November 29, 2012, 10:43:02 PM »
What exactly do you want it to do in the end? Maybe we can find a way around that instead.

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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #4: November 29, 2012, 11:07:43 PM »
Hammer Fist? from Races of FaŽrun, the dwarf only feat
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #5: November 30, 2012, 08:03:18 AM »
Hammer Fist? from Races of FaŽrun, the dwarf only feat

I mentioned that in the OP, it doesn't say anything about two-handed, just strength damage.  I'll do that if I can't do better, but I want better.   :P


I want to power attack with an unarmed strike and gain the bonus as if I was using a two-handed weapon.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #6: November 30, 2012, 08:18:11 AM »
Well, you just need to count it as a one-handed weapon, then.  Because you can just use a one-handed weapon in two hands.  :D
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #7: November 30, 2012, 08:41:37 AM »
How do I manage that?

This isn't a big issue, I'll be doing buttloads of dice of damage, but I will never use the power attack feat that I have to have for prerequisites if my unarmed strike counts as light.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #8: November 30, 2012, 09:07:16 AM »
Could you manage to do something with the Aptitude weapon and some other shenanigans perhaps involving a Necklace of Natural Attacks?

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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #9: November 30, 2012, 11:45:51 AM »
Leap Attack doubles the Power Attack damage.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #10: November 30, 2012, 11:52:32 AM »
This isn't a big issue, I'll be doing buttloads of dice of damage, but I will never use the power attack feat that I have to have for prerequisites if my unarmed strike counts as light.

Power attack with unarmed strikes is the same as power attacks with one handed weapons. Being light has no effect at all.

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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #11: November 30, 2012, 02:58:34 PM »
In the movie Bloodsport, this guy at this moment ...

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3732191232/nm0316455

... had just bashed the killer OA-ish dude,
with a Two-handed unarmed strike.
Then he pranced around like a Pro-Wrestler.
Killer gets up and puts him in the hospital.

About the same time, Dragon mag had a joke class
along these lines.  Super over powered but with
intentional stops in the action, just to pomp and preen.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #12: November 30, 2012, 03:13:29 PM »
This isn't a big issue, I'll be doing buttloads of dice of damage, but I will never use the power attack feat that I have to have for prerequisites if my unarmed strike counts as light.

Power attack with unarmed strikes is the same as power attacks with one handed weapons. Being light has no effect at all.
Same with natural weapons, IIRC.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #13: November 30, 2012, 04:16:48 PM »
This isn't a big issue, I'll be doing buttloads of dice of damage, but I will never use the power attack feat that I have to have for prerequisites if my unarmed strike counts as light.

Power attack with unarmed strikes is the same as power attacks with one handed weapons. Being light has no effect at all.
Same with natural weapons, IIRC.

The point is that the return is meaningless to me since I'm not going to be doing power attack multiplication (leap attack, etc) unless I can get the return of a two-handed weapon.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #14: November 30, 2012, 07:30:41 PM »
I got it.

Show your DM this youtube clip starting at about 0:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SK0cUNMnMM

He'll approve two handed unarmed fighting. I'm sure of it.
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #15: December 01, 2012, 02:58:57 PM »
Scorpion Kama
Price (Item Level): 6,302 gp (10th)
Body Slot: -- (held)
Caster Level: 10th
Aura: Moderate; (DC 20) transmutation
Activation: --
Weight: 2 lb.
This simple kama is unadorned except for a single scorpion etched into the blade.
This +1 kama deals damage equal to your unarmed strike damage (if that is greater than the normal damage for a kama).
Prerequisites: Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Stunning Fist, magic weapon, possession of a piece of the set.
Cost to Create: 3,000 gp (plus 302 gp for masterwork kama), 240 XP, 6 days.
Technically you can buy it as a Larger weapon making it a One-Hander to Medium Creatures who can then in turn hold it Two-Handed.

I suppose nit picks being nitpicks may argue to about what it means as Unarmed Damage. Like your Unarmed Damage is 1d3+(1/2 StrMod) and you deal exactly that (ignoring DR, totally). I read it as the entry that says you're Unarmed Damage is 1d3 (or w/e) which certainly answers if you'd benefit from the Kama being +1 (yes).

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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #16: December 01, 2012, 03:55:58 PM »
Well SorO, if that's the best you can come up with for your game I guess I won't be power attacking.   :P
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #17: December 01, 2012, 04:16:17 PM »
How about you ask for a magic item from your DM?
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #18: December 01, 2012, 05:08:03 PM »
Well SorO, if that's the best you can come up with for your game I guess I won't be power attacking.   :P
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Re: Two-handed unarmed strike
« Reply #19: December 19, 2012, 07:24:37 PM »
I have a solution.

Your hand is a light weapon for a size class of whatever you are. So for a human, a hand is a medium Light weapon. Now, you need to increase the size class of your hand so you can make it a two handed weapon once your hand is Huge.

Of the top of my head, the Kensi PrC allows a monk to put weapon abilities in your hands, so you can take it long enough to put Sizing in your hand. Then, any time you want, you can increase the size of your hand two sizes, then you will HAVE to wield it with two hands, so you can use power attack with it. Plus, it has the added benefit of increasing your base damage, at a -2 to hit per size class increase, unfortunately.

That said, I would never allow this because I know one certain player of mine would state that "any body part is considered a weapon for a monk" and lord knows he'd want sizing in his penis.
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